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Category: General Gaming Game: Default Posted on Nov 06, 2008 5:12 am


Breasts. Yes, breasts. Hetro/bisexual men cannot get enough of them. Hell, even homo/bisexual woman think they're a thing of beauty (woman talk for 'they can't get enough of them'). And they seem to appear, bigger and bouncier in almost all new adult orientated mmo releases.

Now I'm not against having female characters in game.  I'm not against female characters having a chest (although, realisticly, with their body shape and what they do in the game, a DD bra size is very unlikely), I'm not sizest! What annoys me is the 'armour' or lack of that's covering our females. Here is a perfect example from both sexes on ridiculously inappropriate battle dress.


Well yep, better dressed in tatters than nothing 

 

Actually, I struggle to understand where on earth this would be appropriate. The last strippers I saw started off with a hell of a lot more on than that. I hope you don't jump in that game otherwise our little huntress is going to be worrying about more than just the opponent.

Now this is appropriate battle dress! I wonder if female characters in C9 have the equivalent kick-arse attire. It seems that cabal has got the right idea (somewhat). It seems you can have sexiness without becoming rediclious. It's not the only mmorpg that has manage to keep some decency though - which is positive sign, no less.

One thing I do not understand with the mmorpgs is that, they try ever so hard to create a believable world wrapped in rich lore and character building and interaction. A fantasy that you can escape to a play a part, a role. A place where you can take on your own persona within this fantasy and shape the landscape of this ever changing world in which we live in. And here you are with less material on you than your average g-string. That's what break the fantasy right away. This is even before I pick up a sword or bow or dagger or axe to go slash bash and wack things with (and one would only assume, sooner rather than later, be bash, slashed and wacked back). I can now see why people were never much of a fan of Shadowbane: TOO MUCH CLOTHING!

So now, here I am, little old Pino, begging something of game developers/designers: please put clothes on your character, male and female. We do realise that if we choose to play a female character it will contain breasts. I'm just not sure it needs to be that obvious.


Yours in gaming, Pino…

comments ( 55 )

shadowcats
Post Time : Nov 15,2009 11:12 am

hmm.. yeah sometimes.. they go over the top with no dressing the female characters.. properly.. I mean cool they have a sexy look, but sometimes they basically don't have anything one..

theanalyzer
Post Time : Dec 01,2008 3:50 am

oh if this trend continues, alotta gamers start playing with one hand xDDD

Zanpakutou
Post Time : Nov 26,2008 10:09 pm

there's a reason why that some of them dress the way they do. in many cases clothing restricts movements up to a certain extent. if its not armor, its pretty much pointless. the blade and soul characters beeing show have no clothing because their combat style requires high flexibility and movement. something that would be impossible for someone wearing a mage robe or heavy suit of armor. clothing is there to make your character look a certain way, but sometimes its just impracticle. the best example was in the manga tenjo tenge where one of the characters took her swords and sliced off her heavy dress because it would just get in the way.

TatBrother
Post Time : Nov 23,2008 10:05 am

Beauty and sex appeal are away to attract ppl. Just like fasion. In any games(mostly or every) there will be prescense of sex appeal. I am directing this to female characters. I am not into male characters, they are lame.

The first pic of blade&Soul is an overkill. But I am impress of how they depict a sexy lady. I have to say she looks so real -.-'. And yeah I agree with you . The suit is inappropriate. Hmm... she might be late for a catwalk on Victoria's secrets Vanity fair Hahaha...

I'm sure in real life that suit can protect you from any harm. Even a mosquito's bite, or even a punch

shadowzx
Post Time : Nov 21,2008 5:05 pm

Idc if they look like that but i guess most of the girls in Blade and Soul the first screenshot pic are guys....

For the girls who think its a shame or whatever it makes you feel play another game by the time that game comes out more Kool game will be out already

reap24
Post Time : Nov 19,2008 5:07 pm

to actually find out that that attracts gamers is something im ashamed about i mean how much u wanna bet they make money items so they can get attributes and make the female character look like a tramp or w/e u wanna call em

Kabbila
Post Time : Nov 13,2008 12:47 pm

Well.... you basicly fall in love with the FACE and general shapes of a girl.        so these mmo charackters should not make small...chested girls unconfident.      

Apart from that it's just good entertainment.            It's renaissance, celebrating the human body.    

Offcourse it has to fit in the game universe :)

althehun
Post Time : Nov 13,2008 12:36 am

It's just like " Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" ...

It's all a mater of taste and you cannot please everyone,

So, when it comes down to marketing the game, most likely it's a bunch of businessmen in suits & ties with strict dresscodes deciding the images that will be used and for those guys having girls with big boobs goes well when it comes to fantasy.

I can hardly wait to see the game !!!

Equilibrium8
Post Time : Nov 12,2008 8:15 pm

@ Naridas its ok, Im looking forward to playing Blade & soul too, It looks beautiful and I would like to help defend your statement that if anyone has a problem with his artwork or game they ought to look that he just doesnt draw woman in very little clothing, he has all styles of woman in his game, I saw Cute, Sexy, Elegant, Its not like hes only focusing on one type of girl, I agree with you that people shouldnt insult him especially since hes not being one-sided If they don't want their girl to have skippy clothing then just pick a different oufit.

But when i made my statement i wasn't really focusing much on blade & soul in particular it was more of games in general.

naridas
Post Time : Nov 12,2008 3:10 pm

@Equilibrium8

i'm sorry for blaming things on you which you took as insult, i take it as my fault and take everything back  but its just everyone at my school all the thinks that women are just sluts and a sex object which really annoys me and makes me really angry and also the truth i actually thought u were a guy and also i like blade & soul because of its great game concept and just seems everyone to dis it because the art designers is just drawing how he usually does and the way u typed up ur comment u make him sound like he some eros and that he likes to draw slutty women which i took as insult since he is one of my favorite korean artist .  i truely apology the way i acted and i probably deserve a punch or two from that comment lol

footballchamp
Post Time : Nov 12,2008 12:45 pm

o plz they only do this cause geeks cant get hot girls in real life

joeqx213
Post Time : Nov 12,2008 12:27 am

I dont think anyone cares how the dress is~

its just the way how it was designed by NCSoft..

and plus there are couple pple who likes it like this~

and its a attractive and a smart way to bring pple in to the gaming life of B&S~

I understand how u feel but to be honest, I REALLY LIKE IT~~ ^-^

hahahahahahaha~

Equilibrium8
Post Time : Nov 11,2008 9:05 pm

Naridas I did read other people's comment thank you, and I do know the definition of a slut. I Did not say woman who are Big chested are Sluts I said "slutty and big" AND meaning they make them in skippy clothing and than add Large bust sizes to match. I am a size 12 woman with a D cup bust line, and i dont find myself a "Slut" for having a developed chest.

I was meerly saying that not all men are THAT shallow and only want to play woman in skippy clothing  and for the gaming industry to asume that all men only want to play sexy woman is a bit insultive to their male customers. I feel they focus alot on how women feel about it cause they asume 90% of us find it offesnive. I for one dont care i was meerly making a statement. Make sure next time you Insult or Flame Someone especially me, you fully understand my comment, and question the parts you don't. Thank you.

AxleRose
Post Time : Nov 09,2008 8:29 pm

Get a life..Ever hear of the Amazon woman?You should see how they dress..cough cough..But if the breast bothers you, maybe u should not play the game..No one is forcing you to.Or is it they just turn you on and you get killed by mobs because you not paying attention..So u got mad and wrote a blog..lol Your Article is a joke.

adamskydancer
Post Time : Nov 09,2008 6:58 pm

a Chinese popular phrases :" very good  very strong and big"

desuminator
Post Time : Nov 09,2008 1:26 pm

 You saying that clotches/armors in mmos are offensive due to showing breasts. What you say about common style of clothing of many girls/women nowadays? (sometimes more ugly than those 'tatters')
 Btw You wrote about these 'tatters', try to imagine female in fullplate armor(real fullplate not these popular imitations in games/films). Which would be better; playing in set where; breasts, etc can be/are shown or in armor in which u looks like male(and all starts with: 'yo dude!')?
 Personally i have hope that my characters(usually females xD<cus F's are more interesting objects to draw tham males^^') won't remind nun. For me ideal resolution would be(as someone said already) similiar to that from B'n'S where u can choose ur own 'lvl of nudity'.
 Majority of mmos are made in asia(mostly in korea/japan) and they have other sight on fantasy and clothes of these universes. Last but not least, don't be childlish(while reading whole article i had that one feeling about it ^^') there are ppl who don't want to see boobs and nudity, but others want to, and you forgot about it(jsut personal opinion). (btw sry for my english T;T)

poipanda
Post Time : Nov 09,2008 7:31 am

There is a reason that breast are shown. It gives feminicity to the warrior or bowman or whichever class to show that it is a woman and to show that women can fight and battle. Also curves that show give an elegance to the fighting movement.

rolson
Post Time : Nov 09,2008 1:31 am

but i love my women with breast!

Vincent__Valentine
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 10:09 pm

wat game is that first screeny from?

gamerXtreme
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 8:17 pm

well i dont see much girls complaining but i do see you point. Like a male warrior wil have like 6 sets of armour and the female will have like one set that covers her jugs and her lower hole. Still they have the same defence as the male. to me that make no sense but still its not going 2 die out. i dont really care much 

perjj
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 4:21 pm

really just because you think it is "wrong" to not have enough clothing doesnt mean others see it the sameway.the whole maturity thing can be out of hand of sometimes but hey you have a choice to play the game if you dont like it dont play it simple as that.

avarwen
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 3:45 pm

@ Lushy:

It's time to change that mind set then. Girls no longer are confined to the steryotype of stting at the mall or of looking all day at a fashion mag trying to be cute. We are getting more girl gamers and some would like to see more that just boobs boobs and more boobs. I'm not saying we  should ban boobs just give the girl gamers that don't want too look at boobs all day a choice. I understand that gameing is a "Mans world" but IMO as we get more female gamers they should be taken into account too.

naridas
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 1:35 pm

  im just wondering out of all the people who have commented or going to comment, do they actually read everyone else's comment because some people seem to just say things without thought .  like equilibrium do you even now what a slut is or should i give u a definition also the way you say it that all women who have big breasts are slut, now who is the one streotyping and plus the races in blade and soul arent human so dont see it from human morals, ways or tradition.

 if you are going to play soul and balde there probably ways for u to customize your character so it less revealing and if anybody actually read the blade & soul interview http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008-08-07/20080807002618423,1.shtml you get a better understanding what the people are try to do in the game.  like nogoodnamesleft comment the only reason the characters look like that is beacuse of HyungTae Kim design so the people who agree with the article wants to force the artist to change his ways of drawing, to me thats like destroying somebody's principles

Equilibrium8
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 12:43 pm

I actually always thought men should be offended that they specifically make the females slutty n big because they expect you all to be shallow dogs. I mean its kind of an insult to you guys as well, not just women, but most guys are too busy being blinded by the bouncing to realize they just made a stereotype assumption bout the men that play their games. (I guess they weren't too wrong after all if thats the case.)

Conai
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 11:39 am

...Opps sorry for tri-posts... Something is wrong with my internet.

Conai
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 11:39 am

Um, one thing you need to know is,

[It's a game]

Why do we play games? For fun? Got bored? To do something that we can't do in real life? Bingo~~

Or you just want make fun of gamers.?!?!

Lushy
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 8:10 am

Well, frankly sex sells and not sexy men, sexy women sell. To appeal to the girl/girly types of players, they make cutesy. To appeal to the average male gamer who like tits, then show them. It's a bit sexist on your part to assume that all female gamers play females though...You know what they say about MMORPG right? Mostly Men Online Role-Playing Girls... For the most part, females aren't even factored into the demographics when it comes to selling games, unless they are cutesy, and then it's pushing to the typical teenage female or younger. You have to remember where these games are coming from too? Not every country is gonna spit out a Fable like game where you can be gay or dress anyway you want too...It's gonna be a traditional rooted field that chics look good in half naked cosplay but don't play games.

NoGoodNamesLeft
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 7:50 am

"Still I wish some one would take female gamers in mind aside from the cutesy crap they think we all like."

--- avarwen.

"It is disrepect to the actual female players that don't want to look slutty, and actually have cloths on their bodies. Just my 2 cents."

--- urouki.

Only two peoples that get it. I find it also quite ironic that the majority of commentators here are male. Of course, we shouldn't expect you not to like breasts and hot barely clothed warrior women. But seriously, shouldn't you be asking this to us female gamers? Some of you menfolk handle female gamers like it's still a taboo. This is the 21th century; not every female character you speak to in an MMO is a fat 40-year old guy behind a PC. There are actual female players out there - me for one, and not all of us are crazed about Hello Kitty. Shows that the gaming industry is still old-fashioned... /ponder

About Blade & Soul:

I'm a Hyung Tae Kim fan and his artworks are just out there. You know a Hyung Tae Work when you see one, and without the exploits and eyecatches it just wouldn't be the same. But that's OK, it's his style and it looks good.

I rest my case.

callofctulu
Post Time : Nov 08,2008 3:10 am

I like to play female chars and I'm male because it is defenetly nicer to look at them^^

avarwen
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 11:29 pm

Still I wish some one would take female gamers in mind aside from the cutesy crap they think we all like. I'd like to see all games give you a choice of weather you want your caracter to look like a slut or not. That way the guys can get their jollies and the girls don't aren't forced play as characters that  look like hookers.

owlgod
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 8:53 pm

 half naked female character in game: hot

female character with huge metal armor: not hot (might as well have a male character)

Anyway since most gamers are male anyway, the design is geared towards our interest. 

avarwen
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 7:12 pm

I agree and I see nothing wrong with sex or being sexy. I'm just annoyed that every where I turn it's shoved in my face. Not only is it in games but on damn near every T.V, show ,commercial, movie or magzine. It's like I'm surrouned by horny immature sex crazed teens 24/7. A little skin is ok but when it looks like character is ready to walk the streets at night it's a bit much.

uruoki
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 6:56 pm

I 100% agree with you. I am not gay, or bi, and I am a male, but I agree with you. The females in the game should have  more "protection". It is disrepect to the actual female players that don't want to look slutty, and actually have cloths on their bodies. Just my 2 cents.

yhun
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 6:18 pm

I'm just curious to why does it bother you so much? Don't you think you're being a little immature? Granted I'm a guy and I love them breasts, but I dont think it should matter how much or how little the characters are wearing. I mean, given the image she's pretty much wearing a highly custom designed swimsuit thats being held on by double-sided tape (my interpretation of what she's wearing XD): and on the other hand, you hav the guy bare-chested. If you are going to complain about showing too much of the body for the ladies, why not comment on the guys as well? I mean, come on here...isn't this kinda sexist? It's not like she's actually naked or anything.

Why not just play another character of the same type but has a different set clothes on. Hell! If you can choose your own clothing, just put more clothes on and cover yourself up. Before I even typed this up, I even asked my girlfriend on her opinion on this topic, and she sides with me on this one. Why should the developers change the entire thing for everyone just because one person (or people) doesn't like something? We all have our own opinions about what's what, but we can't force our views on others.

So like I said, if you think it's too little he or she (she in this case), then either don't play that specific character and choose another, or  not play at all (if you take this option, I'll just think thats a bit extreme but that's just me). Now if you'll excuse me, I have a girlfriend to PK.

smbkerr
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 2:50 pm

your a fag

Lawful
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 2:30 pm
AkatsukiSwordmaster just read my mind. I'm seriously having a blast out of such articles that aren't really gonna change the way that the MMO industry spins around mainly oriented for the male populaton wich exeedes the other sex by a overhelming amount but yet imagine this, NCsoft had to remove a few races since they had even less clothing on theyr bodies than the ones above displayed so those are still good to go ^^
kirikki
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 1:50 pm

 well dunno.. i kinda like em bouncing around ^^

though i dont approve the fact that female breasts are nearly as covered i as i would like it. for example no way can u see anything under a heavy plate armor since its like for defense all the way.. but game makers believe that it shouldnt be covered that well... i kinda would like more realistic armors where a full defencive suit set covers almost everything like it should....

regardless of my beliefs though i love seeing them bounce..lol

Conkerer
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 1:33 pm

You forget one thing: 

MMORPG= many males online role-playing girls

On a serious note, the huge breasts that games portray in their artwork are used as a gimmic to get their games played and sold. That is what they are aiming for. So as long as the people who dont mind and actually play for this particularly reason beat the people who want it to change they wont change.

You failed to notice that the guy behind the girl with barely any clothes has like no clothes either. So maybe they dont actually need armor and have like super rock hard skin? Who are we to judge on what is more realistic in a fantasy based game... Anything is plausible!

naridas
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 1:06 pm

i believe what you are saying is right but i believe blade soul should be an exception because the illustrator HyungTae Kim is a known (well not exacty but most of them have big breasts) artist for making big breasts so its just the way he draws designs and such and also in the interview the company said the weapon is more important and armor is less needed and plus how are you suppose to going jumping around if you have heavy armor on you and its also mostly based on martial arts which has less to do with weapons and armor but for other games i say should put more clothing

AkatsukiSwordmaster
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 12:26 pm

Oh God...seriously I don't know why alot of people talk about breasts and explicit clothing in MMOs. like xDD I always laugh at these articles. Not saying your article sucks. I like it very much. But they are you know...graphics and pixels...not real. Now if they WERE then we got ourselves a problem but they aren't. So Boobies and whatever are just there to make it look good and get people to play. And if you don't like that, then I suggest you go play Hello Kitty.

One0Spartan
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 11:48 am

What about Nao in Mabinogi? She has clothes that cover her whole body (Not in Rua's Dress I know) But she is still....graciously endowned kinda hard thing to miss.

sdhf
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 11:29 am

i dont mind half naked chras in my games as long as they are not guys ^^ 

ozarker
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 8:44 am

Great article.  I do not like half naked women characters in my games thank you.

furiosknight
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 8:20 am

I don't really care, but I think that female characters are somehow being harassed in a way.

NoGoodNamesLeft
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 6:22 am

Reminds me of the angry posts on the Age of Conan forum back in June. An issue 'caused some of the female characters to get a reducing in breast size. Gamers were even swearing they'd close their accounts unless it was corrected. Apparently, it's a big thang.

But seriously people, look at it twice and think about it:

Imagine it.

AsianKitty
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 5:41 am

wow nice...XD

buddj1
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 2:15 am

haha, these kind of topics always get alot of 'views' lol. Alot of "East Asian" games are like that. Nothing wrong with it though, atleast not all is showing. Oh, and that first image at the top, she's has a blatant boob job!

kit21
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 1:38 am

lol i would say sometimes they could use more.. but.. gaming is a male dominated socity(of course im not trying to put down girl gamers, we love to see you playing lol) im just saying.. it is.. I mean.. when i think about it.. maybe one out of every .. 30 or 40 ppl i talk to is a girl IF THAT! lol so you cant blame the games for making the females like that.. it plays to a guys weakness xD

*shrugs* good artical tho :D

Mewanna
Post Time : Nov 07,2008 1:00 am

I'm a female in real and I'm not embarassed at all to play female characters.  I like having a pretty character in the games and, well, at least the appropriate sexy armors (not the kind where you can see nearly the whole bare butt and silly things like that).  I really like to have a pretty sexy character personally.  What I hate is when males make a character and strip off the clothes and run around saying "Wanna feel my breasts?!" and stupid things like that.  And some of the oversized breasts are also a little silly, well, a LOT silly.  Some actually make me laugh.

 

That first picture you have up the male has even less on than the female tho, and well most guys aren't shaped like the big muscle bound hunks that they play as in so many games either, although people rarely complain about that one.

Hyuk
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 7:13 pm

Love this article, lol. Argent is right, breast is just a trick with the aim to get more their games sold...honestly it's impressive if you see it for the first time, it is like "wow, a warrior girl can be dressed like this? Cool" but will get sick when it spreads everywhere...

glamsight
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 4:31 pm

Excellent i concur

AkatsukiSwordmaster
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 1:24 pm

hawt pics. ^^

Jazzx7xenoff
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 1:14 pm

Sooo true!  It's embarrassing to play as a female character now.

argent88
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 12:43 pm

You're right...
But there's a reason you have this standards nowadays : it sells.

However, any news about C9, the game you took the picture for the "appropriate battle dress" ?

Invisible_Man
Post Time : Nov 06,2008 7:07 am

Well said!  I completely agree with you.