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Battle of Sexes MMORPG Style Part II

Category: Game Community Perspective Game: Default Posted on Jul 09, 2008 9:10 pm


I don’t mean to underestimate the power of women.  I truly understand how cesarsuki explained that at many points, women really overpowered man.  But if you want to compare MMORPG with military, and how women can influence decision of the “main actor” of the stage, I will have to say: men came first, my friend.

Why would I say that?

Let’s be realistic.  First, we are living in a world that has change in progress BUT hasn’t changed yet.  It is a patriarchal one, where men are considered dominant.  Most of the leader of nations are men.  Most of the wealthiest people in the world are men.  Most of the military generals are men.  MMORPG is about role, and it is not about how to live peacefully happily ever after in the game, because so far, the concept hasn’t changed from how to slay as much monster as possible, how to achieve highest level as fast as possible, how to conquer as much areas as possible.  It’s about aggression, and men response well for that areas (Coi & Dodge 1997, Maccoby & Jacklin 1974, Buss 2005).  And guess what, in my country the leader of strong guilds are mostly men.

 

Tales Of Pirate guild war taken from IGG site

 

Second, let us take a look at the history of military and conquerors.  How many of them are men, and how many of them are women?  Is the list dominantly filled with women?  I believe: no, it isn’t.  It’s full by men’s name.  Hammurabi, Cyrus, Leonidas, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, Darius, Xerxes, Shi Huang Di, Liu Bei, Cao Cao, Sun Quan, and many more.  Yes, there are some women who play a very important role in some conquering, such as Cleopatra, but they are only few compare to men.  Some might argue that the world culture was not recording too much about women’s role, so it is not fair to compare the number.  Again, it is shown that my first argument is true, we live in a patriarchal world.  I know it’s not fair.  Most of conqueror type guild in MMORPG, is lead by men (not the character, but the player).

Alexander The Great

Does this make men better than women in playing MMORPG?  Please don’t get me wrong, I will say: no, it doesn’t (or for at least, not always).  I just said that men came first when it comes to the nature of nowadays MMORPGs.  In most of the events, even in the future, men will be the initiator.  Will it be changed in the future?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  But in my opinion, it won’t be changed in the near future. Because men are naturally aggressive, while women are natural supporter and provider.  We never heard about father earth or father nature.  We always called her mother earth and mother nature.  Because women are not natural penetrator, they are natural life provider.  No wonder, when I play with women that playing their role as a healer, usually they are good.

Women also heavily influence men’s decisions.  Yes, I agree with that statement… for some cases.  People are focusing in some “crazy acts” of men because we are naturally logical beings (up to 80% prefer thinking) while women relies heavily on their feelings (up to 75%) – MBTI surveys.  So it is more exciting to talk about different case rather than talking about the “usual” logical beings.  That’s why we found Helen of Troy, which can initiate a war, and I also has an article about similar case in MMORPG.

Helen of Troy

 

So why should we talk about these differences? 

Well, we should.  Yes, we want to treat every man and woman as equal.  But without knowing our differences, we can treat each other in a wrong way.  That’s why there’s a book about these (Men from Mars, Women from Venus).

Last words of this part, the beauty of MMORPGs world lies in the differences.  I heard many people complaint on how the character look the same and demand more customization like Perfect World in MMORPGs.  So, women can have different ways of playing, and that what make us (men), love them.

comments ( 9 )

Rachana
Post Time : Jul 20,2009 11:30 pm

 this is an old scottish saying i like :"Men are natrual warriors, but woman in battle is truly bloodthirsty"

i mean have you ever seen a woman go after someone lol  i know the rage i get hehe and you better watch out of course ive got the irisha nd scottish blood in my veins  but im sure others have just as bad or worse tempers then me and i like to lead i like ot give others a chance to leade as well tho but i get bored when i have to follow others for a long time -.-

LeonhartFFVIII
Post Time : May 17,2009 12:28 am

XD I always play offense and make my best friend be the healer (or ranger). Ever since my first mmorpg me and my best friend were guild leaders (around 6 years ago). Yeah we are girls. I can never be a supporter for some reason o.o I love being the agility type, like rogue, thief, assassin or warrior. Even offense magicians. I can never be a supporter, it's just not my type of thing. xP

Also I was raised better with my dad, I mean I live with my family, but my mom isn't really good at parenting. 

In general for your topic though, I agree with some of it I guess. That's in history, but things are changing fast now. This generation more women are participating in activities they wouldn't be able to before.

Dexcross replied at 11:42 pm Jun 09,2009
This is just a perspective, and I believe it is not a law that apply in the world or game world. And I also agree with you that this generation, more women are getting active in male's area ^^. Your character type showing that game player gender doesn't affect the choice of game character gender or class.
ShadowKid_II
Post Time : Jul 11,2008 6:05 pm
Gotta agree with mystical, at least on her first point, just because men are more aggresive women were suppressed for a good part of our world's history. As for women acting more on their feelings then men, whoever wrote that survey either didn't do the test at all or hasn't met anyone from my generation. Even in ToP, you've made a mistake. I know for a fact that in Agean Sea, 2 of the three top guilds are led and mostly membered by women. Granted, there are more men leading and membering guilds, but 4 times out of 5 they're less successful then the female-led guilds. I don't mean to flame the article, you present some valid points, some well backed-up and a new perspective on the "Battle of the Sexes", just wanted to point out my views on some of the statements.
Dexcross replied at 8:09 pm Jul 13,2008
Yeah that's true and that's why I said maybe it's not fair on the 4th paragraph. And as for the survey, it's MBTI, you can check them around the internet. About the ToP, I never mention that the top guild only led by men. The picture is just showing a guild war, cuz I thought having a pic about guild war will be nice for this article. And I don't feel flamed, you have a very good comment on my article and I really thank you for that. Not many people can argue as clearly as you, so no worries. And yes, your point of views are good too and it's still go on the same way as this article, in my opinion.
bejoy
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 5:31 pm

what? is this about the skin showing armour of woman? woman dont fight wars when they used swords and stuff like that. so if you want to play a woman in an mmo they better be sexy !

Dexcross replied at 7:34 pm Jul 10,2008
Errr it is not about it, it's about the differences of style when men and women play MMORPGs by trying to compare them in military.
aisu
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 2:50 pm
Hmm... We are all humans right? Why we just leave it at that! Think of it male or female we do the same decisions.
Dexcross replied at 7:33 pm Jul 10,2008
Yes, someday it will be, I believe.
mysticalenchantment
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 9:34 am
ugh please this is a load of chauvinistic bunch of garbage. Women were forced for years to sit at home and not permitted to partake in legal matters and you use the fact that male's have been world leaders/army leaders for years as supporting your argument? Can you explain to me why in countries like Canada and England women outnumber men in post graduate degrees and yet we only gain a percentage of the earnings of a man with the same degree? It definitely isn't about qualifications or men being better at the job. It's easy to stay at the top if your already there and continue to employ only males so don't spout this bs that men have been better at it. I'm not saying women are of equal aggression, testosterone obviously has a big influence, but don't start extending that to other things.  Men and women have different interests and yes women do have a more "nurturing" aspect but its not simply black and white the whole thing is gray with people having different combinations of both. There are men who take better care of their children than their mother ever would and there are females who are better army personnel than a male also. Psychological tests show that women underperform men at math tests EXCEPT when they are told that women generally do as well as men; then they score about the same. Obviously society stresses the importance of gender differences and thats probably a good part of why we see these differences in test scores/jobs.  Raise a women telling her she can't do math, she has to be emotional and her role is to stay home with the kids and guess what? She most likely will be bad at math, think with her emotions and be good at being a housewife, but not completely because she is a "women" but because thats what shes identified with herself all her life. There may be gender differences but they are greatly exaggerated because of the patriarchal society and the limits it imposes on women.
Dexcross replied at 7:32 pm Jul 10,2008
Well somehow this article already lead us to the conclusion that I am a chauvinistic. This article is integrated with the first part, but try to give a different perspective from the "other" side. Please read the first part of these articles series, because in there, we really adore women. These series will still continue, and these are just a basic to move on to the next articles that we want to write. They don't intend to start a gender war. This just a battle about how male and female act in nature when playing MMORPGs. Cesarsuki started these series with comparison with military, that's why this article also started with that. And as I have said on the 5th paragraph, these doesn't make men better than women. And please look at the last statement, that differences are what make men love women. This article is NOT trying to say that men are better than women.
poipanda
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 9:21 am
I totally disagree I mean I'm a guy but i still think women have equal power. Look can man have babies? No. Can woman? Yes. Now think about it can man shove a body through the hole of his **** or ass crack? No they would rather have abortion. Can a woman shove a body down her ****? Yes and she can get fucked too in the ass. Now see how more strong is a women. They are strong enough to bear getting banged and stay atleast 1 hour in the hospital psuhing a baby out of her ****. Can we men do that? No. Also we should be thankful women are here without them we wouldnt have babies without them we wouldnt have such wonderful places. Now if man were president they would think more about war and stuff. But if women they would think about peace and stopping global warming and helping the poor iwth insurance. Also Hillary Clinton had a chance to be president. But still if she didnt women are getting there. In some countries already women are the president. In my home country in the Philippines a women leads the country. Women are startign to join the army and getting good jobs. Also woman are scientifically proven that they mature faster and seem to be the smarter and kinder race. Due to this fact lots of woman are nurses lots of women have power and lots of women are couragous. In the future women and men will be leading.
Dexcross replied at 7:22 pm Jul 10,2008
Yes exactly, they have equal power. That's why these series started with the adoration of women power, please check the first part of these series. And this article only carry on the "military comparison with MMORPG" of part 1. It never intended to compare the power of gender in the real life. And yeah, a woman already lead my country too. I also admire some women as nation leaders like Margaret Thatcher. So yeah, you are right. This article is just about MMORPG style. BTW, Barrack Obama is already confirmed as the candidate for democratic party.
furiosknight
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 8:28 am
Good use of history.
Dexcross replied at 7:17 pm Jul 10,2008
It's just a comparation because these series started with military ^^
kyrein
Post Time : Jul 10,2008 5:15 am

rofl, loved the "women are not natural penetrators"

Dexcross replied at 7:16 pm Jul 10,2008
Err... I really mean that word to be in military terms ^^