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The Real Reason You Don't Like World of Warcraft

Category: Random Game: World of Warcraft Posted on Sep 25, 2009 2:05 am


I shall say, it is the best article I read today. I'm sure the blogger's point in this article will hurt someone's feeling, well me included, but just like Guidor said: "I think the most important factor is people subconscoiusly hate it (World of Warcraft) because they spend so much time and effort in it, not getting laid, that they have to blame something for their hopeless addiction."

This article is written by mung, Gameriot

 

 

I'm sure everyones heard it all before; someone brings up WoW in another MMORPG, on some forums, whatever, and you instantly get replies from 15 raging nerds including the words noob, kid, and easymode, all too eager to tell everyone about how much they loathe WoW.

 

Now, why do they dislike the game so much? Is it because the game is imbalanced?  Is it because they think it's too easy and not a challenge?  Is it because there isn't enough totally sweet hardcore World PvP for their liking?

 

No.

 

It's because WoW forces you to fight fair

 

I'm sure everyone knows the type i'm talking about, your generic MMORPG zergling that makes up 99% of the population of every game, and consequently is 99% of the WoW hating population.  They're the players who played their level 68 Male Bloodelves in WoW, being the bane of all the level 30's in Arathi and Hillsbrad until they finally decided that they owned enough noobs that it was time to finish up those levels.  They hit 70, or 80, whatever the cap was at the time and went back to Arathi to show those level 30's what a real MMORPG hardcore world pvper is like.  Eventually, these people maybe muster up the courage to enter a battleground and win 15v5 due to their imbalanced battlegroup, further cementing their skill in their own minds.  I mean hey, you owned PvP in Ragnarok Online, and in Warhammer you and 200 other people were the most feared guild on your server!  You've got MMORPG credentials, there's really no reason you shouldn't dominate WoW PvP as well.

 

Next, they try the arena.

What the **** is this? Why am I losing?

That's pretty much where it ends.

 

 

People who have become kings in their own minds due to their "accomplishments" by clicking their way through terrible MMORPG's where all the skill in the world would get you nowhere & zerg games has them convinced they're something they're not.  They tried WoW, sucked at it, and now forever curse it's name, as it's quite clearly a noob game dumbed down for kids so they can succeed; and that's why they went 0-20 in the Arena, that's why when the level 30 they ganked got on his gladiator main and killed them with 100% HP left it wasn't him being better.  In a skill game, those people would have NO CHANCE.

 

Unfortunately, in reality WoW is and always will be remembered for being the game which took MMORPG's to the next level.  It is currently , and for the forseeable future will be, the only "competitive" PvP MMORPG not just due to it's tournaments, but due to the arena system actually demanding you win more than you lose, matching you with opponents of similar quality and the fact that class imbalance aside, you are actually fighting against even numbers, something which other games do not dare do because they know they would lose the zerg-hungry playerbase which makes up most of their subscribers.

 

Personally, being "competitive" in an MMORPG is not my thing, I have not played WoW for months and do not enjoy it, but I can still recognize it as the best PvP MMORPG ever made, and, realistically, the only competitive PvP MMORPG that will ever be made.   While the zerglings I spoke of are currently hyping Aion, just remember they're the same people who hyped Warhammer, AoC, and Vanguard, and will be hyping whatever "WoW killer" comes out next, of course, as long you can zerg in it, and they'll still be talking about how bad WoW is and how anyone who was good at it is a noob, too.

 

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comments ( 57 )

Guest
Post Time : Nov 06,2009 12:55 pm

I was hoping for rich stories.  But honestly rpg just isn't for me.  I don't know why people like it but they do for whatever reason.  I tried Fallout 3 and was lost and didn't like it much, Oblivian to me was boring, WoW was addictive because it makes you want to keep leveling and that takes tons of time to do, and Everquest was terrible.  Everquest was like Oblivian to me, but I don'[t care for the having to click "hail' to read a quest, or 'attack' to attack something.  Point and click is nice, but I really think that this genre needs more to really pull me into it.   That is unless these games are really only for those that like RPG board games and doing math to figure out the best stats.   If thats the case I will stick to my open world action/adventure games.

Guest
Post Time : Oct 17,2009 8:41 pm

i hate it because the only way to get anywhere is to grind or do quests... and you have to do a shit load of either one.

i liked runescape about 3 years ago, where you can kill ppl in the wilderness at a low level, and after about 8 kills you have leveled up quite a bit.

the way wow makes you level up takes too long... over all combat leveling, then choosing what you want to actually level up takes way too long.

i like runescapes combat system, minus the turn based part.

take runescapes combat system, and wow's real time fighting and youve got something special.

HeySupItsMike
Post Time : Oct 07,2009 12:36 pm

My arguement stays the same. Don't play it, Don't listen to them. Hit block.

The end.

 

Seizaku
Post Time : Oct 02,2009 8:44 pm

No, kid, they don't. But they can't stop criticizing, cussing and calling names on people  for not liking what they like and don't even bother to try anything before saying other games fail or something like that. When they do, they already go looking for what they can pick as a flaw and brag about how WoW is superior, then shut their ears and sing "la-la-la" when someone says something 'negative' about WoW.

They might not be forcing me to buy the damn thing, but they keep forcing their opinion on me and other people.

HeySupItsMike
Post Time : Oct 02,2009 10:59 am

"We try to stay away, but WoW fanboys keep forcing it on us. "

 

What? They make you buy WoW, all of the expansions, and hold you gunpoint until you install them all?

Seriously people, don't like WoW? Don't play it.

Keldius
Post Time : Oct 01,2009 12:31 pm

well wow fanboy focring upon us becaus ethey Lose more player than before but Nobody said that they still said 12 Millions of wow suscriber yes maybe its true but how many of them still really play and how many of them is The same person ?

the Most they have on the point time was around 2 Million and the most the last expansion has been sold is around 5 Million most popular I don't think

but well a lot of people mentionned this the "asian grind fest crpa MMO" is a Racist term used Mostly By american ( weird I dont heard european saying that ) how many successful MMO american did ?? you have one hand of 5 finger and thats enough of it

How many "asian crap mmo grindfest" has been succesful there is not enough finger in both hand and feet to count sorry but asian has proved they can do and give more of a storyline than just PVP issue or best gear or whatever, the american standard is very poor " you must be good having the best gear being a PVP being a wow... sorry but it's only Bullshit

Now AIon has been released and there is More than 3 Millions of the people around the world ( maybe elss I don't know the exact number ) but 400 pre order only in NA and EU ... without counting the one who bought it after that without counting the chinese japanese and korean one also

People are tired of those wower who just said asian crap MMo go play wow is the best or whatsover people are tired of racism and sexim from american playing People are tired of wower in general who flame and troll and when we see other people that we are jealous because we hate Wow when they don't even Know the real reason of our hatred

Yoshio
Post Time : Oct 01,2009 12:00 am

My hate for WoW stems from the split and subsequent popularization of the grind-fest MMO that occurred when both Ultima Online and Everquest were on the market. See, Ultima Online took freedom and ran with it, then Everquest came along and stuck to their guns, turning the RPG and previous attempts at MMORPGs and solidifying the formula (somewhat). UO broke and catered to the "carebear" demographic and then went on to overcomplicate itself, which is forgivable because it still favors freedom, whereas EQ had quite a bit of handholding. We still see new level caps being patched in some months after release, and nearly every MMORPG since has followed the same formula.

 

WoW? I played it, couldn't stand the fact that there I was playing a game that felt like work so I could get to a point where it'd feel like fun (or feel like a game for that matter), but it never came. Grind levels, grind quests, grind equipment, grind end-game, then patch in a new level cap, then grind some more... MMOs like WoW are a travesty, and while they do offer a steady footing I see no point if it isn't any fun, and a game is only a game when it's fun.

arumat
Post Time : Sep 28,2009 10:51 pm

Oh hello Ferha, your right, point & click games DO need to die, oh and if your playing WoW in point & click mode you should throw away your computer because its W S A D movement dude.  Yes there is an option to turn on point & click but your right, it is stupid.

Seizaku
Post Time : Sep 28,2009 6:55 pm

We try to stay away, but WoW fanboys keep forcing it on us. 

HeySupItsMike
Post Time : Sep 28,2009 11:10 am

Hey guys, guess what?

 

If you don't like WoW, stay away from it.

If you do like WoW, play it.

 

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Ferha
Post Time : Sep 28,2009 8:03 am

LoL no I hate WoW for alot of reasons...this article fails.  For one being an artist myself I cant bring myself to play any game mmo/console..ect that is worse that what I can do, and WoW would be one of those.  I dont see how ppl can honestly say that WoW has good graphics and be searious...  I also dont like WoW for its dorky elves and trolls....ect world that makes me feel like I should like pen and paper RPGs as well or be into Warhammer.....sorry im not a dork.  I also dont like it because ppl praise it like it is the diamonds and gold of the mmo world when it isnt even close..... then lastly I dont like WoW because point and click rpgs just need to die.....cant believe it is soon to be 2010 and we still have point and clicks in the top line up of games.

Ajatz
Post Time : Sep 27,2009 10:45 pm

I like to say that it does take skill and a proper set of equipment for pvp in WOW. For an mmo WOW probably has the best pvp system. It is not the best pvp system but when you compare it to other mmorpgs out there, it is next to nothing

But my ideal pvp would be Diablo II's system (even though it is a multiplayer rpg and not an mmo).

Common Diablo II was the best. Everyone loves it =P.

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 5:05 pm

"Market" lol... ran out of room xD.

Ragnarok has probably giving the best service i have honestly seen just there content is still being upgraded and added upon 3-1 3-2 classes are being added for god sakes... what other game let's you be reborn and then go to another class again...  

My point is in the mmo market unique is much much much better...and that's what people should be looking for not 

PVP OMFG THIS GAME HAS THE BEST PVP EVER!!!

Sure... i Woe in Ragnarok and enjoy it i enjoy the competitive nature and everything ragnarok has to offer in the pvp department. 

But im really not a pvp guy. i much rather have a game that is unique with absolutely no pvp even.

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 4:59 pm

Actual smart mmoers...

WoW really isn't that best but it really is the most convenient of fantasy based mmo's ...

If you were a true mmoer you would adventure pass that world and find out what else there is out there...

Every game has grind like ReaperV said but some game polish it and hide it behind a pretty layer if you understand what i mean..

Ragnarok out of any mmo i have played next to my new love aion has kept pulling me back ever since alpha was released.

The typical term "Asian grind fest" is actually massively ignorant considering most "American/convenient mmorpgs are exactly the same way...

and the reason i love asian mmo's so much because they just always throw something new to you a new beautiful art style or a new element in mmo's.

You actually feel... pumped to get to that level you can't wait for the newest gear the newest armour/cards/upgrades. 

Aion even though im not gonna play it has all the pros i could every want beautiful graphics awesome character customization and the ability to fully customize your armor even the way your character moves and attacks is unique...

and i mean i even play monster hunter because getting new armor and making your guy look like the coolest thing ever is just purely enjoyable.

And i think each mmo should give you 1 year to 3 years at most in play time 

Wow is just proof that people are ignorant and there letting something control there lifes.

i mean look at most kids in vent forming a party and doing boss hunting there always angry if one kid does something weird like outrageously angry.

Why in gods name should you ever take an mmorpg that seriously...

Just WoW needs to die because in all honesty it really isn't all that great. in the mmorpg market it's probably one of the saddest sure blizzard gives great service but so do other mmo's that are trying to make it in the mmorpg ma

genfar
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 4:34 pm

Well I do have to agree on one thing right now that games shouldn't be dissed becaue of the grind fest excuse becasue it is and will always in a way in all games be some kind of a grind fest. Honestly I played it for one month, everyone i ran into was a shithead to me and sad part is I am a nice person so when people do this and harrass me I ignore them no reason to be an a-hole back ( and no not the I didnt get my way so there a a-hole attitude I mean really being really disrespectful to people wise. ) But I have to admit though its not a surprise its really a good reason diablo of any type was terrible to play on battle-net ( spent quite some time long long ago with both games on battle-net and never failed to find that group of people who just couldnt be respectful to people and all that. ) Yes I understand that otehr games has its share of people too like this, but this game itself honestly relys on team work and corraperation, and honestly noone will ever grow to be any good if people don't cut some slack to people playing their charaters there is a major differance from a leach and a person who just hasn't quite gotten the hang of it and is trying.

 

 Honestly though I hope all the why I hate wow topics stop too casue in truth and bottem line you either will play it or won't and there is nothing wrong with an opion but it honestly needs to stop being rubed into the ground casue its getting old too ( posting this now caue I just though about this and honestly weather wow is #1 or not  dosent bother me I personaly would just be happy to find a game I can play and enjoy without getting that urge to move on. )

Keldius
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 3:03 pm

quite funny and Interesting this discussion at least they doesn't insult like I see on the comment status on the site itself

 

as for teamwork FFXI suffer from it also when I was a paladin level 23 the elader of the party kicked out our summoner because the summoner doenst wnats to be Main heal and started to said stupid thing, well as paladin My job was to tank well I tank but I lets the leader die and disband, I don't need someone who doesn't respect other a game it's a game same goes with wow I would have tried it also but every time I see a new games coming they all said wow clone so it's give me the decision of No playing it I kinda Boycotted it for the community

ReaperV
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 1:43 pm

would some of you WoW haters.

 

To conclude, WoW is simply a lot more polished than a lot of the other "me too!" game out there, which is a trademark of most Blizzard products, and why they have a huge fanbase. I myself have owned Warcraft 1-3 and all expansions, every Diablo game and expansion so far, and I still have the full Starcraft collection. Does that make me a Blizzard fanboy? Yes, it does. Does that mean I HAVE to play their MMORPG? Not at all. I don't see how ANYBODY (love it or hate) could try to argue that WoW is not a quality product, but at the same time if you simply don't like the setting (goblins, orcs, fairies/fantasy) then how could you possibly like this game? While Aion has many similarities, the game really has its own kind of world that is very different from the traditional fantasy setting... so that is why people might preffer it. S.U.N. is in a fantasy setting, but it is dark and very fast-pased (a times a bit unexpectedly brutal towards the player >.<). So in short, WoW is probably the best old-school fantasy game left on the market, and it killed the mass of other games in that particular niche, but if you want sci-fi you will likely go to RF Online, if you want a more relaxing game with a unique job system you can ONLY choose Ragnarok Online, and if you want something totally different then you will likely go to a myriad of other MMORPG out there. To each his own. What makes a game #1 or not is how many subscribers they have. WoW is currently the largest MMORPG on the market, but is it the BEST MMORPG for everybody? Of course not. We don't all like the same things.

ReaperV
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 1:42 pm

Even though I am not a fan, I have to say something in defense of WoW for a change lol (to make this discussion 2-sided, at least).

 

First of all, all MMORPGs are 'grind-fests' based on the definition of the term. Every MMORPG you kill mobs = complete quest = get EXP/gear/money. = level-up/become stronger. This formula has been used since the very first MMORPG (yes, THE first) which was Runescape (the original 2D one, not the poor-attempt-at-3D-new version). Even if a game does not have levels, or it might not be completely gear-based, or it might be solely focused on questing for progress, the game still follows the same basic formula. The rate at which you progress, and how repetitive the action is, are the two determining factors of how grindy a game is. The perception of the grind may be off-set by how into the game you are, but that is a very subjective measure no matter how you look at it. WoW is no different from L2, or Ragnarok, or Aion, or S.U.N., or etc. etc. When you break it down, what does set them appart are the basic elements I listed in a previous post... and a reason why "grindiness" should not be used as an arguement anymore.

 

Now, the other thing is all of you talking about graphics... well, in truth, WoW has been updated multiple times, and with time new effects have been added. However, WoW, much like many current-gen MMORPGs, does not have 'BUMP MAPPING' (this is that effect that make realistic-looking 3D textures like what you might see in Cysis or Unreal Tournanent 3). So of course it will look a lot more 'cartoony' or whatever in comparison to Aion or S.U.N.. It's an older game engine. With that said, they still added a TON of new effects in the later areas (especially to bosses) so certain areas or mobs may look noticeably better than some of the early content... I have never actually seen it first-hand, but I have seen videos, and I was very surprised, maybe so

Zanpakutou
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 12:48 pm

the reason WoW is popular because its the one of the only true MMOs that are available to both casual and hardcore players. no other game out there can appeal to both crowds as much. the thing i hate about it is the combat system combined with the control system. the hit distance and the combat in general seems tacky like the Perfect World games. the reason WoW is completely imbalanced is because of how skill damage is calculatted. if they fixed that so that intelligence and other magic based states contributed to skill damage like how physical skills stacked on top of normal damage, then it would be better.

morbiddrake
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 12:26 pm

Blizzard jacks stuff from other games and implements it into WoW. So of course when a new game comes out every WoW fanboy is gonna say it's a WoW clone. Plus every game that comes out is going to be the same thing. You kill mobs, you do quests, you craft stuff (if it's available). There are very few games which have something that no game has. At one point it was flying in a game. At one point it was having a legal bot. If there is any reason to hate WoW, it's because it's not very original in itself. Especially if you consider that EQ came out before it did, as did other MMORPG's. That would be why I don't play it and I don't care much for it. Plus who the hell is gonna spend 100's now in order to catch up (as someone stated before) and 15 a month when you can play games that are better then it and free(yes personal opinion)?

genfar
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 10:34 am

Well I stand by my saying still that its not the game its the players that made it bad. Honestly even though its repeating myself  WoW was made in the prespective of team play, its the reason why palidins cant just turn on all aruas and use all lay of hands skills all at one and only one palidin can use one aura or lay of hands  at a time. Seeing that people can not get off their high horses in this game to accualy team up with people just to be socal and have fun and its always about getting kicked becasue you dont play your charater the way they want you to play, and yes I have teh right to criticise this too becasue when I raid I have alot taken people new to games in my team, and when they didnt seem to be doing good I would take a breather and talk with them and ask them how they are building thier charaters and if I have a good idea to help them I give them pointers not demands, and even if I have to lose my but off millions of times as long as in the end this new person gets a better feel to play thier charater alot better thats worth more than loot or any in game items to know someone was enjoying themselfs and themselfs got a feel to play thier charaters.    Truth is and will always be truth if WoW wasn't made by blizzard this game wouldn't be a bit hype thsi game itself soley as of now runs on the companyies good rep in game making from warcraft 1, 2, 3    starcraft and diablo 1 and 2. If we had any otehr game under teh blizzard logo I just about guarrenty you it would have been the WoW status.

 Again saying  game concept and all was good, its the people who ruined it.

stormmccloud
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 10:30 am

Kinda Unfair allmost all hate WOW in this post lol,

Anyway i have my own reasons to hate it first im a WC3 Fan WOW is an insult to Warcraft saga.

second it delay Starcraft 2 for years

mmm the most important one i hate the figthing system best PVP ever = Ragnarok Online(alot of combinations and skills) not only ur lvl and armor makes u pro there so i think is the best MMORPG i ever played

Skills Cards Status Armor (Been a noob with nice stuff dosnt make u pro)

Seizaku
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 8:48 am

 Wait, arumat. Are you saying that my computer that can handle Gears of War, Assassins Creed, Mirror's Edge, TES IV: Oblivion among other games with graphics set to max  is poor to handle WoW graphics? C'mon, don't try to force it. Lineage II and RF Online have  far better graphics.

Beside that, graphics alone doesn't mean everything about gaming. You chose to play WoW because you like it, and it's all right, I respect that, but that's when I get a problem with WoW community: "If you don't like something in WoW, is not the game that has a problem, is YOU that has a / YOU is the problem."

domica
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 7:00 am

Oh, and btw, this entire article is epic fail. By posters logic, I should not start playing any mmos because I would be bad at each. And of course I would be bad at it, because everyone is bad at the beggining.

And one more thing. The poster doesnt know what a word "competitive" means, because if he did, he would realise that wow is the non-competitive mmo.

 

domica
Post Time : Sep 26,2009 6:52 am

For me its a bit more comlicated then just loving it or not. The point is that 99% or mmos are based on everquest gameplay concept, including wow. Currently I play guild wars, because it belongs to that 1% group not following everquest gameplay concept. There are 2 reasons I hate wow :

a) It follows everquest gameplay concept. I dont think its bad, I just simply got bored with it, after playing many mmos that use it.

b) 99% of mmos follow everquest gameplay concept. In other words, I hate wow because it does not deserve the popularity it has, because its gameplay concept is old and used too much.

 

Keldius
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 11:07 pm

well I always saw some wower said on other MMO another asian grindfest or another asian MMO I wonder why they said that surely By racism because wow is also a Grindfest like it or Not you kill Mobs

 

and for crap there is a LOT of people who think wow should not be number 1 and I don't think it's really Number 1 I think it's a fake ad that Blizzard put Up

 

but it's only My opinion as for the Grindfest think about it first wow is also a Grindfest worser than those asian MMO out there and I prefer playing asian MMO because they have decent story at least

DojimaDragon
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 10:41 pm

Like 1080 said, WoW is out-dated. When it was first released, it also was just another hype, yet people started to get attracted to it only for its popularity and being the final Warcraft game converting to the "MMORPG" genre. It's true, because games like Everquest were big back then and WoW was very similar to Everquest. But WoW gained more fame than Everquest in a short period of time, only because it is "Warcraft". As time passed, WoW started to improve the state of the MMORPG genre by adding more competitive content just by reshaping the PvP and refining its system, then altering their standard ingame content like buffing/nerfing classes, adding skills, and gear dependency. Yet, it just feels the same, so all you see is the same thing repeated over and over again in WoW. Sure, there's new content within patches and expansions, but WoW Is basically the same thing and its purpose for those patches and expansions is to prolong the players' time to spend on the game and let Blizzard still achieve the same success and dominance in the gaming industry. Its just as playing a MMORPG mindlessly, and i don't think anyone ever sees the point that WoW is always jumping back and trying to fool people in thinking that their MMORPG is "innovative" and unique. Most of the players can't even find a concrete reason in knowing why they're playing WoW and why it's fun, and that's just what these casual players are like these days. Sure competitiveness might give us a better reason to play a MMORPG, but focusing too much on it takes out the enjoyment and true purpose of what RPGs are suppose to be. MMORPGs like Ragnarok Online (which i've played) are older than WoW, yet i favor them more than WoW because of its uniqueness and highly agreeable, friendly features. WoW is just another MMORPG, but with improved content that took time to build and always took one step ahead of other MMORPGs, yet still remains the as same exact WoW we rememb

Invasion
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 9:14 pm

 Patriotism. And you know what the majority of mmosite viewers are made of. No point argueing with me.

Windi3
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 6:19 pm

I just hate wow because too many stuck up ppl

arumat
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 5:23 pm

Lol, its not like im defending everything about it, of course there are things that could be better, i've played other MMO's that do require thinking and such and liked them but the player base died out a little too much for me so I left.  As far as it being "my world" I can play WoW with everything but shadows on and maxed and it looks great, shadows just destroy my framerate on WoW though :( 

 

 

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 4:49 pm

Fair enough arumat ... that's a good reason but from what i have seen it's really just mediocre and really the graphics arn't even mediocre .... ..

You just sound like that's your world. 

When your giving your point of view on that game. 

It's very simplistic and those really are not good enough reasons. to be the #1 mmo it really is a joke that those are facts.

And even that WoW "is" mlg is just...massively sad there are mmo's that require you to think and submerse yourself allot more then WoW...

arumat
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 3:38 pm

Maybe Leon, as I do play WoW currently, however, I also play other MMO's from time to time, and to be like every other typical WoW "kid" here you go: ZOMG WOW IZ LYKE TEH BEST EVAR. Not really, it all depends on what you like, I play WoW because I have family that also plays that live in different parts of the United States so its nice to be able to do something with them.

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 3:34 pm

... is it just me or does Arumat sound like your typical WoW kid..

and i couldn't have said it better myself ReaperV.

mmorpgs really have became only about pvp it really just makes for a soulless world if that's all the game focuses on... most games that give promise for an mmorpg are just left in the dust and never touched again Because of competitive WoW junkies really WoW is the death of mmorpgs and america just like halo and it's yearly mlg.

Aion in terms of graphics ..story ..pvp and life .... Aion really delivers allot more ... 

So if people were not SO rapped up in the past and probably just don't want to leave there character for another mmo...

They would play games like Aion or hell even warhammer.

But sadly ... this is the world we live in.

ReaperV
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 2:19 pm

There are many factors in a game that make it different from other games:

1.) Art style

2.) Gameplay systems (crafting, mounts, PvP, economy, etc.)

3.) Content

4.) Community

5.) Well, there are probably a ton of different elements, but the 4 above is how I choose to break it down on a basic level.

Comparing games like Aion to WoW and then saying one is better than the other is not 100% accurate. Some people (like me) will first look at the general art-style or 'theme' of a game before even considering to play the game. I'm not a fan of anything overly 'cartoony,' so a more 'realistic' look to a game is my choice... not counting Ragnarok, since that game rocked because it had its own unique style. Simply thinking that PvP is the ONE reason why somebody likes or dislikes a game is garbage. I for one could care less about the PvP system. What matters most to me is the PvE and character customization, and after that I want the ABILITY (a.k.a. choice) to party or not to party. The PvP part of the game is pretty much triatary to me and many other gamers. Competition is often used to compensate for other personal inadequecies, so to that, I say "fk it." Somebody wants to prove they are the best simply by killing other players trying to just PLAY the game, then fine by me. If it makes them feel better about themselves, then I could care less if there is a system for them to kill each other... just leave me the fk alone while I'm questing :P.

 

P.S. Yes, I have played WoW (only on private servers), no I don't hate it, and no I don't really like it. I prefer games in the sci-fi genre like RF Online, although Lineage 2 was my favorite game for a long time... and since Aion is basically Lineage 3, why would I not like it?

arumat
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 1:27 pm

I think this article was pretty well on the spot. I play WoW, raid in it, PvP in it, and Arena for fun.  I'm not the best there is but i'm not shit either.   As for the people who say WoW's graphics are crap and out-dated, I'm sorry you have a crappy computer that can't handle it.

 

gamechaser002
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 1:03 pm

actually, i just hate it; i don't need a reason, i just hate it

1080
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 12:53 pm

The reason why people hate WOW? Very simple: because it out-dated, boring and having a millions of "WOW hooligan". It made a standard for other MMO - yes, but but worth my time for playing - absolutely no. It has out-dated gameplay, out-dated graphic, out-dated system which make me fall asleep while playing. Some "old-timers" have unique gameplay and unique status/skill system, make them outstanding from all of the MMO world and still "have the whole world undiscovered" like Ragnarok, Dungeon Fighters... But the most reason why i hate it  is because it make players become seft-centered fools. They don't know and don't want to know anything outside their tiny WOW world, and think if they are kings of WOW, they are kings of the world too.I think my reason is everyone's reason to hate WOW, and it's why WOW fan react too much with us. They know it too.

And one more thing, if you want complete competitive PVP, just set the lvl and equip of the opponent equal. There is no game can do it.

EdgeBreaker
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 12:12 pm

No.

 

It's because WoW is completely imbalanced.

It's because the gameplay gets boring after a few months.

It's because the graphics remind you of a bad comic book.

It's because Death Knight owns all.

It's because Illidan and Arthas never got the recognition they deserved (Well Illidan more than Arthas anyway) and were replaced by Deathwing.

It's because more than 80% of the quests require you to kill random hordes.

It's because raids are the only exciting part of the game and even that gets old in time.

It's because it take weeks or even months to level when your lv 30+.

It's because Blizzard is losing creativity in their story and killing of the best aspects that had from the Warcraft series.

It's because WoW is 'infested' with teenagers and little kids.

It's because newcomers to the game must spend hundreds of dollars on expansions to catch up with everyone else.

Blizzard needs to stop stalling and finish working on Diablo 3 considering the Diablo series was hands down their greatest achievement. Millions of people still play and love Diablo 2 despite it's noteable flaws and repetition. It might be a room-based MMO, but it's still a epic MMO.

genfar
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 12:12 pm

Honestly WoW the game itself is good, most the people in it suck ( not everyone but with the massises being pricks its really hard to see the good people in the game. ) One big poniter is everyone in WoW likes to act like you have to play a certain way or be a certain way and if not  F you and its like everyone outcasts you just becasue you decied to play a differnt role of your class then what everyone else says you should.

 Not to mention when I played it what irritated me the most was that seeing that all classes solo make no sense until you accualy team up to do quests and such alot of people I tryed to get a team with laughed at me ( yes  people around my level ) told me to piss off and yea  I spent preety much my whole WoW time with noone wanting to team up with me, so after a month of this I just said screw it I have played games where people accualy liked to party with people so yea. . . .   Sad part was I was new to the game so its not like I honestly had time under my belt to really be a hated person or anything like that, but in every mmo game I play I dont pull ****ry on people though and am really considerate.   So honestly WoW fails becasue in a game where teaming is best you most the time will not find anyone to team with you if you go in and not know anyone in the game.

Keldius
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 11:34 am

The real reason is Mostly of the community with the wow clone Nothing actually with the game they think they will attract More playing by saying wow clone everywhere they go they are wrong if you wnat my advice to you and other wow player : stay in wow and stop saying wow clone to every other game

 

like naridas said wow is a Monopoly in western  world ( well american doenst have much creativity anyway )

edcofu
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 10:33 am

"Actually i hate WoW cuz of its boring gameplay... =)

If you could do like 100-combos with chars... WoW would be number 1 game 4 ever!!!"

agreed, its gameplay sucks

tried to play it once, and 10 min later "SHIFT + DELETE"

just one more thing:

 

WOW CLONE!!!

NightSage
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 10:32 am

"Actually i hate WoW cuz of its boring gameplay... =)"   <--- what he said.

NightSage
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 10:31 am

uh... nope. I hate it because It was boring from lvl 1 to whatever level I stoped playing. Good try though.

eatlyh
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 9:51 am

Actually i hate WoW cuz of its boring gameplay... =)

If you could do like 100-combos with chars... WoW would be number 1 game 4 ever!!!

Xesolor
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 9:34 am

FLAME WARRRRRRRRRR!!!

 

Seriously, you know why I hate the game? Oh no, unlike some I've got nothing against the game, but everytime I think of playing it, the images of WoW fanboys and their world-famous slogan "WOW CLON3" comes into mind and I just can't stand to face millions of them in one single game.

 

Game's great, this over-confident fan culture isn't.

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 9:28 am

Yeah ... that pretty much sums it up Seizaku thank you for those oh so true words..
 

I Actually played Offical WoW upto level 27 giving it a fair chance i thought it was alright... but nothing i would pay for. then since it's the number 1 mmorpg and everything and my friends were playing the hell out of private servers i thought i would give it a little more of a chance... 

There's nothing special about the pvp nor difficulty.

There's nothing special about what is WoW and it's quests and story.

 

There's nothing special about the 1 2 3's of WoW.

In all honesty i still don't get why it's so popular but my guess is it was over hyped people loved dota at the time and the story the warcraft rts series provided thus gathering up a large fan base.

Not to mention ... WoW just brings pvp from other games into there own. 

And the one remaining fact. WoW is the mother of all clones and definetly a warhammer clone.

The sooner it dies the better.

Because i think it's also shitty of them to deny there fanbase and not pull more of there story into world of warcraft.

And if i play an mmorpg like i said before i need story and i need difficulty. 

Warcraft didn't provide and i don't like the way blizzard does things as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

naridas
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 8:55 am

 o.o

i only hate wow because its a monopoly in the western world and i dislike point and click game meh nthing really innovative or exciting about it, i get bored fast unless i play with my friends but thank god for the new mmos that are coming out that arent point and click *dances happily~*

SpiritThief
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 8:18 am

Hate to break it to him but fact is, Guild Wars holds the best pvp around.

Seizaku
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 6:58 am

Poor argument at the best. Force you to fight fair? If I wanted I could just go and buy me a high level character for any RTM site, it's cheating and I'm against it, but if I wanted to be unfair I could and it would be easy and just spent my time learning how to fight in the arena.

People have the right to like or dislike anything based on their own reasons, as for WoW I've been there, I tried, I disliked and went away, i just preferred other games at the time. I didn't hated WoW at first, I had my reasons to not like it and I could enumerate the reasons why I dislike in WoW (like not living up to the plot development of the RTS entries of the series, or the lack of difficulty) but I'll just say that what really made me HATE WoW after some time is the it's rotten both in-game and outside of the game.

 Their behavior took the last inch of my motivation of playing the game with my friends (among many things there are the kids believe that they win at life because they're good on PvP, the annoying voice chat in burning crusade, and etc), and when they try to pass anyone as an utter idiot for liking any MMO other than WoW and reduce the effort of development efforts and creative work of other by labeling it a "clone" they make my blood (and of others) boil - even though I stop before I answer them so I don't  and not feed the trolls.

The current WoW hate is just a consequence of the actions of their own players, don't try to push WoW's problems to people other than it's own players.

janny001
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 6:27 am

if you hate it dont play it go lock your self in your room and play super mario

Cyrusnagisa
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 6:13 am

The auther of this artical sounds like a fanboy, but no this is not way I hate WoW, you know why I hate WoW? Because its so mind numbingly easy -.-

LeonReborn
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 6:07 am

Seriously? this guy compared ragnarok players to WoW players...

"...."

Im actually kind of speechless at how retarded that is.

I Mean granted he made a convincing argument... .. 

But this guy talks as if there is No other mmo...

I Have seen arena and trust me it doesn't rule upto ragnaroks difficulty. 

I Wonder if this guy has even truly played ragnarok knows the top players played the top players and gone in tournaments and or bio lab 3 partys.

This guy doesn't know difficult... and aions pvp probably looks to be the most difficult yet.

I Hate WoW because of people like this. 

Because of the constant term WoW clone.

And because everyone thinks there is "no other mmo" and in all honesty there is.

What i look for in an mmo is to be submerged in another world.

And not the constant look out for a better pvp... i just wanto truly be "in an mmo" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cyferlaw
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 5:32 am

My reason I hate wow are as same as XMisael below. At first, I never hate wow but I also never fall in loved with wow, but I started to hate wow when those made in wow retards keep saying other mmorpg a wow clone which makes me feel them stupid and arrogantly annoying. Before that I was interested on wow and played a short period of time but ned up leaving because it is not my cup of coffee, I prefer playing anime/cartoon mmorpg like Ragnarok online and similar kind. So actually not everyone dislike wow because of the reason above, I can only say wow is quite innocent for this case.

ZzTieuLongXIIzZ
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 5:31 am

nope

xMisael
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 5:03 am

I hate wow because of wow noobs saying wow is the best game, this game is a wow clone etc

Drikiii
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 3:22 am

i played WoW before its not that i hate the game i hate the people in there and when ever other games comes out they always says its a WoW copy i dont like that attitude yes other games might have taken a few things from because yes its a very good game i do agree that most haters played WoW and just couldnt cmpete with the other players who played long and hard and got very skilled in it but still WoW fans should not disregard that there is other good games there and not only WoW makes u play fair but there are also other games i played before and in the End Blizard mixed features from other game and made a realy good one but in the end WoW is also a copy it  just got more develpoed than others.

elve
Post Time : Sep 25,2009 2:57 am

Nope, people do not hate WoW because of this guy's reasons, people hate WoW because of people like this guy.